initials confusing people about the future of the TRUE Shiloh Shepherd™?
They shouldn't be, although all of these
"initials" stand for groups that are issuing "registration" papers for
dogs they deem to be Shiloh Shepherds™, only ONE was formed by the breed
founder & has consistently operated as the official representative for
this "breed" still under development.
Let me explain in as simple a way as possible.
First of all,
most people have been so used to the AKC that it is hard for them to
understand the FCI type of registries.
They think that as long as you have a "pedigree" you get papers on your
dog; without such "official" papers your dog is just a mutt. This is partly true, but you will also find puppies
advertised "without papers" from registered parents, for whatever
reason. Most of the time
you can meet the parents, and see those pups, and expect to pay less
just because they do not have the "official" papers.
On the flip side of the coin, you can purchase a puppy from a pet
shop, or a wholesaler that will provide you with AKC "papers" that may
not even belong to that particular puppy!
Furthermore, there are many places that offer "papers" for a fee.
These places can be found in Dog Magazines, as well as all over the
They have no concern for your dog, its breed, or anything else!
Their only purpose is to collect your money and hand you a piece
of paper. For more details,
Registries: What are They?
registries do not breed dogs, people do!
The final quality of any puppies produced will always be based on
what the individual breeder is doing, not on the papers they place on
their puppies, correct?
Well ... this is a loaded question, since most breeders are normally
influenced (if not fully guided) by what their peers are doing!
This means that they regularly succumb to the "politics" of the
breed club they belong to!
If it is a strong club, with experienced breeders that are
willing to guide the "newbies' toward a common goal,. then you may find
some quality dogs being produced.
If this club also has a
registry, with data being processed independently from club
politics, as per a strong constitution, even better!
Then the next thing you want to examine is the results that are
being achieved, for the benefit of the breed!!
Certainly a registry should not consist of just a computer that
is "spitting forth" certificates!!
Each club/registry must have a statement of purpose, a
constitution, etc. Of course, each of them will also have their “own”
agenda for the particular breed that they represent.
This can lead to severe havoc, which is why even the AKC only
recognizes one “parent club” for each breed!
In the case of a dog breed still under development, having
several such groups representing it can do nothing more then to not only
cause confusion, but also possibly lead to the demise of the entire
Now I would like to take some time to
investigate a few of the splinters that claim to be registering "Shiloh
course the oldest of the splinters listed above is the
ISSDCr. The ISSDC started as a club in 1997 under the
presidency of Mr. Gary Allison, who in turn started the registry in
1998. For more details
please be sure to read
History of the Club Split
On these pages you will find the original letters, etc. that went
back and forth between the ISSR and this new "registry"
They even set up their own
“new” Breed Standard!
In the summer and
fall of 1999 things had gotten so bad within that organization, due to
power plays and politics, that many wanted to return to the ISSR.
Meetings were held, all being posted on our ShilohShepherds
mailing list, even pictures of the leaders together at Niagara Falls.
We called it "hands across the water" and
it was a strong attempt among those dedicated to the breed, not personal
egos, to try and unite all people involved with these dogs.
They sent out a plea known as the
to all members of the ISSDC to return to
club and registry, in order to protect the future welfare of this
breed! Many of the club's
officers also sent in
resignations to the ISSDC,
stating WHY they were leaving!
Some of those letters were shared with our e-group, so that our members
could take an honest look at what was truly happening behind closed
Our club responded to them with the
SSDCA Amnesty Letter.
Although it was not easy for some of these people to
swallow their pride and return, they knew it would be the right thing to
do for the future welfare of this entire breed!
Since the ISSDC had now lost most of its
foundation, including many of those that had originally formed it,
newbies were called on to take over important positions such as serving
on the Breeders Advisory Committee!
Some of those new “leaders” had never even bred a litter of
puppies, much less understood anything about the foundations of the
Shiloh Shepherd™, yet they would now be advising others! !
If that weren’t ludicrous enough, even they would continue to
fight amongst themselves for control on issues none of them even
understood! Such foolishness can lead to nothing but anarchy, and that is
exactly what happened!
Out of the chaos that was the ISSDC
and the ISSDCr , came the
next splinter registry.
This time there would be no new breed standard, only papers for
dogs that did not qualify to receive papers any place else, except of
course ARBA .
Not much time or planning went into the new
It simply stated …
governing good hips, health and welfare of the Shiloh
Shepherd™ breed will be strictly enforced with the Shiloh
Shepherd™ dog always being the principle focus. ...
Penn Hip, showing no
degenerative joint disease is defined as passing.
This may sound good to the average person ;(
but for those that dig a little deeper, they
will discover that young puppies seldom have
"DJD" and a PennHip rating of .51 or .55 etc.
would be classified as DYSPLASTIC by OFA
standards!! In other words, .60 means that 60%
of the hip is OUT of the socket, ask any vet
what that means!! NO "DJD" IS A CUTE TRICK,
just to fool the gullible!
The outcross must be of the German Shepherd
family with a three generation pedigree and must be bred
to a Shiloh Shepherd™.
The outcross must be in good health and have hips rated
by OFA or GDC as fair, good or excellent or Penn Hip
without DJD or changes.
If that isn't enough, now the rules here state
that you can breed your "Shiloh" to any German
Shepherd dog .. or better yet, dog from the GSD
"family" and still register the pups as
Shilohs!!!!! In other words, if your neighbor
has a GSD "kind of, sort of" looking dog ..
great, you can register those pups as "Shiloh
Shepherds™" and get thousands of dollars for
them .... worst yet, what if the "other" dog
happens to be a wolf hybrid? Hey, I'd say he is
still in the GSD "family" .. after all, he IS
Of course, the
main reason for this was to ‘catch” some of the mixed breeds,
dysplastics, etc. that were now being registered under
ARBA! As if the papers that ARBA sent out meant
Just because they have a “name” that “looks” good, and have been
sponsoring shows for nearly a decade, certainly does NOT give them any
credibility as a registry!
All anyone needs to do is to hand write a 3 generation pedigree,
using names that sound like something that “might” be found on a Shiloh
pedigree, and send it in with a check for $15.00 to receive an
“official” registration number!
As I once said on my e-groups list .. The best story I have heard
to date, and I have heard many, was about an Aussie registered as
“Kitchen Table”! The Sire
was “Chain Saw” and the Dam “Oak Wood”.
If that isn’t ridiculous, then I don’t know what is!
Granted, the kitchen table had 4 legs and no tail .. but to give
it recognition as an Australian Shepherd??
Heaven’s to Betsy, what could ARBA have been thinking?
All joking aside, they are not stupid either!
The “certificate” and postage costs them less then $1.00, the rest
is pure profit!!
Enter the SSBA and
SSBR. So where did these guys come from?
Well, in actuality they are the same people that once called
themselves the ISSDC, now operating under a new name!!
The BIG question should be WHY?
Why did Mr. Allison (former president of the ISSDC and the
ISSDCr) dissolve the corporation that was registering dogs for his club,
to start a new one?
Why were the ISSDC and ISSDCr then
incorporated in Michigan
under a whole NEW group of people, that are now using the old
name, but do not have the data base of info that originally went with
that name .. since that info has been transferred into the new SSBR
no wonder I am hearing
that people are confused!!
There has been so much “political” slashing going on back and forth
between these many factions, that even I was getting confused about who
was doing what to whom and if and when, etc.!
Does any of it matter?
It certainly wouldn’t matter a bit, if they were NOT representing
themselves as legitimate registries for the Shiloh Shepherd™!
Unfortunately, because they are misleading the public, claiming
to have dogs that ‘are” Shiloh Shepherds™ (even though they are not ISSR
registered) I feel it is my responsibility to present the truth to the
public. If for no other
reason then to protect people from being defrauded by such “clubs”!
To begin with, the Shiloh Shepherd™
is, triumphantly, still a
“breed” under development!
One of the "big" problems that needs to be addressed regarding the
"other" registries is simply EXPERIENCE! None of the people that have
been forming 'registries" and "breeder advisory committees" seem to know
much about dog breeding ;( Never mind this breed in particular! This
can be a very dangerous situation, since the Shiloh Shepherd™ has an
extremely small, inbred, gene pool to begin with!! Just take a few
moments to read Inbreeding
of Inbreeding. These articles, written several years ago, should
raise some red flags to which you should pay heed!!
is NOT a joke, nor is it a "hobby"...it is serious business,
because you are bringing life into this world for which you
should be prepared to take responsibility! The life (puppy)
you have produced is going to affect other lives, for many
years to come. Careless, misinformed breedings should NOT
take place, in any breed!
All of the
ISSR, Inc. Licensed Breeders are aware of this, and have
been participating on the OSS list, studying their VIB
lessons as well as learning from the experts on the CANGEN
Just as an example, here is a post from that list that one of our
Licensed ISSR Breeders had permission to reprint.
<<<< I saw this post on the CANGEN list and asked the author for
post it here, which she gave. In her email to me
Mary Lou wrote:
"Here is a little information about me that will give my comments
some creditability. I have bred Basenjis for about 35 years and
bred Shelties before that. I have written a little book called
"Understanding the Practical Application of Genetics", that was
nominated by the Dog Writers Assn. Of America in 1998. It is meant
to be a very elementary book to introduce people to the workings of
genetics and hopefully encourage them to continue the study and to
Her post, reprinted with permission:
Mary Lou Kenworthy
<kensetbasenjis@J...> Subject: Breeding Strategies
Why is it always
perceived that linebreeding is on one side of the fence,
outcrossing is on the other and that they are mortal
enemies? Different methods work in different situations and
no two situations are exactly the same.
Trying to make
'population genetics' and 'breeding strategies' fit into the
same little box is like comparing apples to oranges. No
breeder breeds a "population". They can only breed a minute
part of it. The population of domestic dogs depends on the
contribution of many breeders.
>outbreeding merely "hides"
bad genes and allows them to proliferate in the gene pool
This is true; eventually
two (or more) defective recessive genes will meet up and
cause the problem to re-appear. However, this is not
necessarily because of line breeding and the same ancestors
are not necessarily involved. It doesn't matter where the
genes come from as long as they are like genes; it could be
from the same grandparent on both sides or from two totally
unrelated dogs of different breeds.
>linebreeding brings these
bad genes to light so that conscientious breeders can
"eliminate" them from the population.
This also is true. It is
a good tool to do just that, if one is persistent and
careful. With a single recessive gene inheritance it is
easy. With multiple gene involvement it is much harder. BUT,
there's a difference between theory and practice. How many
people are willing to put the time, effort and expense into
doing it right and following through to double check their
results? Most breeders want instant gratification. When
linebreeding, the motto should be, "Make haste slowly." The
biggest problem with this method is that breeders are not
willing to do this in such a way that they do not loose some
valuable genes that they should keep.
>The implication was that
outbreeding spread bad genes and was a form of irresponsible
breeding whereas linebreeding was the tool of the true
No method should be
called irresponsible. Only the improper execution of a
method that does harm to a breed is irresponsible. Neither
method alone can insure the future of the breed.
>There were even assertions
made as to the presence of breeders who had eliminated
certain genetic problems through tight line breeding.
This can and has
happened. It is nice to get a dog/bitch from the line that
does not have a particular problem. However, if only one
breeder eliminates it from his/her line, where do you go
from there? If the problem is in all other lines because no
one else has bothered to eliminate it this does not move the
'population' ahead very much.
Both linebreeding and
outbreeding must be utilized to insure survival of a
population as this is the only way to insure diversity. This
may sound like a contradiction to some but bear with me.
Visualize a breed that
starts with 10 totally unrelated dogs. Two of them, both
males, carry a recessive deleterious gene that is lethal
when doubled. All the breeders are big diversity advocates
so they do not do any linebreeding. Every mating is to a
different dog. BUT, how long can this go on before they run
out of unrelated dogs to breed to? Let's say 10 years for
example. Now there must be doubling on some dogs but they
may be 5 generations or more back so not too close. Suddenly
dogs are dying of a never before seen problem. Now where do
you go? There is nothing 'different' left! How do you
identify which of the original dogs were the carriers?
Following the pedigrees
back to try to figure out where it came from only leads you
to the same 10 original animals. All 10 are in all of the
pedigrees. The line of decent may vary from dog to dog but
these totally outcrossed pedigrees all contain the same
thing. They are all the same; they all have the same genes
even if there are a lot of them. So where is the diversity?
Now to the other
extreme: Same 10 dogs, two males carrying the deleterious
gene but in the hands of linebreeding advocates. Since the
founders are all unrelated it takes a few generations for
them to be line bred. Breeder "A" likes a leggier dog so
breeds for that and linebreeds on the dogs that produced it.
Breeder "B" likes a cobby dog so linebreeds for that.
Breeder "C" is a working advocate and selects for ability
rather than looks. Breeder "D" just wants to be different
and selects for 'who knows what'. Other breeders breed to
the winners. So while they are all linebreeding, most are
linebreeding on different animals. Soon distinct lines are
evident. And yes, the deleterious gene had been doubled on
and dogs are dying all over the place.
But, by studying the
pedigrees, one can deduce which lines are dying and which
are not. Soon the two carrier ancestors can be identified.
With reasonable deduction you can avoid the pedigrees that
have these dog in them numerous times. At some point in each
pedigree, the gene will no longer be passed on and dogs with
the problem ancestor in the background can be safely used
just as others that are still carrying it can be discarded
without loosing attributes you want to keep. By observing
all the closely related dogs over time you can figure out
who are likely carriers and who are not.
Now, what about
diversity? Is it being lost as lines are being formed? Not
really. Each line is formed with a different collection or
alleles as breeders followed different paths. While the gene
pools may have narrowed within each kennel, there is just as
much diversity within the breed as a whole. Plus, there is
always the opportunity to breed to something different by
going to another line. (Preferably one with little or none
of the problem.)
Too much outcrossing
leads to the necessity of linebreeding with little
information about what you are dealing with.
Too much inbreeding
leads to a very expensive education that can be very
valuable to the diversity of the breed PROVIDED that enough
breeders choose independent paths.
Too many breeders
breeding to the same few dogs can be instant disaster
regardless of whether they are linebreeding or outcrossing.
IMHO we need to tare
down the fence and use all the tools that are available to
us to try to do what is right to preserve our breeds. When
no two situations are the same you can not have strict rules
about what is right and what is wrong. One must use common
sense in breeding. There is only one guideline that applies
in all situations: "First, do no harm".
The above post is just one of thousands of posts and lessons that have
been made available to all serious breeders, that are truly concerned
with the proper development of the Shiloh Shepherd™! Instead of
attempting to tear up the small gene pool with which we have to work,
they have united to utilize every means possible to better educate
themselves! Some of the lessons that we have shared (like Another
) have been turned into articles and placed in the Learning
Center. Other important posts are available via the Yahoo!
archives, or member files. Our mission has always been to educate both
the future breeders and owners of these magnificent dogs!
So why are we plagued with so many "splinter groups"? Well,
of course, one of the biggest reasons is simply that the
Rules & Regulations are not easy to comply with, if you are only
interested in producing lots of puppies! Even harder to live with, are
the SSDCA, Inc.
Breeders Code of Ethics
ISSR Licensed Breeders Agreement!
these combined can scare off a lot of potential "puppy mills" and cause
others to just start their "own" registries, so that they can have the
ADVANTAGE of the popularity of the "Shiloh
Name" without having to deal with any of the
serious requirements connected with breeding quality dogs!
As you can clearly see, just in the past 3 years ... 4 "new" registries
have sprung up to issue papers to anyone that wants to call their dogs
.. "Shiloh Shepherds™." This is nothing new .. many others have sprung
up and fallen apart over the past decade! So how can people possibly
protect themselves from such obviously fraudulent groups? By trying
to better understand the TRUTH about these dogs!! Introduction
to the Shiloh Shepherd™
1. By reading about the Kennel
of Origin--The Real History of the Shiloh Shepherds™
taking the time to carefully read What
Are We Breeding For.
3. By better understanding the International
Shiloh Shepherd™ Registry how, when & why it was developed!
4. By taking time to better understand what this breed stands for LMX
5. By reading this article slowly Conformation
Show Titles--What Do They Mean?
6. By taking a good look at
Hearted Founder and all of the other yearly reports linked at the
bottom of this article ;(
7. By reading The
Importance of the Health Survey AND ISSR,
Inc. Health Survey 2000 Update
Once you have taken the time
to read all of the links above, you should no longer be confused about
the many "registries" that have come & gone .. but you SHOULD be
convinced that the
ISSR is here to stay!
PLEASE BE SURE TO GO BACK & CLICK ON ALL OF THE LINKS & READ THOSE
ARTICLES and don't forget to
Investigate Before You Invest!
February 2002 Update
In the few months since
this was written, the "new" ISSDC/r has ceased to exist and two other
registries have arisen from its ashes.....when will they ever learn?
October 2002 Update
New "registries" have been
springing up quicker then ever before with the latest being
the TSSR (no web site yet) and the USSDC with a whopping
total of 6 breeders. Since most of these privately run
"home computer" groups are probably more interested in the
small fee they charge, than in maintaining any real data,
some are now asking owners to just keep "buying papers"!
Just look at the quotes below ;(
Although some encourage dual registration within
"certain" groups, others don't seem to care as long as
you get one of "their" papers too.
<<9) The USSDC encourages dual
registration with ARBA, NSBR, and SSBA.>>>
breeders have all or some of their Shiloh Shepherds™
registered with the SSBA-they also may be dual registered
with other Shiloh Shepherd™ registries. It is the
clients responsibility to determine where a litter of
puppies will be registered.>>
The thing I found most interesting is the fact that each
group only has a very small handful of "breeders" listed,
and many of them show up on various sites, as members of
each different "registry"! Yet, if you add them all up
together, from among all of the new "registries" that are
being advertised, there are less then 2 dozen "breeders"
involved, and some of those listed have never even produced
a litter of pups! What in the world could these people
think that they are doing? Not one of them has a
website that provides the public with any tangible breed
information, aside from a few facts copied off our sites,
after being "re-written" a bit!
Why is it that they
are not willing to post public information like we do??
ISSR Inc Registered Litters 1991-2001
Please keep in mind that it is a registry's responsibility
to maintain DATA on a specific genepool. Not just tiny
little bits and pieces of mish-mash, but as much as possible
in order to work towards the future welfare of the entire
breed like the ISSR has been doing for over a
Please read our
ISSR HEALTH SURVEY UPDATE 2001
and be sure to watch for our 2002 UPDATE coming out this
Please note: the ISSR does not
allow for dual registration in our constitution--never has
and never will. As per
Article II Section 1 of the ISSR Rules and Regulations:
Under No circumstances will the ISSR allow Dual
If your dog is
registered with any other organization it is not eligible
for ISSR, Inc. papers. If your dog has ISSR papers and you
choose to register it in a different registry, its ISSR
registration papers will have to be revoked.
If you are looking for a REAL Shiloh Shepherd™ puppy, please
be sure to visit our
ISSR Licensed Shiloh Shepherd™ Breeders